# 📢 New Speaking of Open podcast episode - What can Open Education do that AI can't?

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**Created:** [July 28, 2025, 7:10am UTC](https://connect.oeglobal.org/t/new-speaking-of-open-podcast-episode-what-can-open-education-do-that-ai-cant/7874 "2025-07-28T07:10:41Z")
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### Author: ![AshTheLibrarian](https://connect.oeglobal.org/user_avatar/connect.oeglobal.org/ashthelibrarian/32/5952_2.png) [@AshTheLibrarian](https://connect.oeglobal.org/u/AshTheLibrarian)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2025, 7:10am UTC](https://connect.oeglobal.org/t/new-speaking-of-open-podcast-episode-what-can-open-education-do-that-ai-cant/7874/1 "2025-07-28T07:10:41Z")

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👀 What’s that? Another episode of **Speaking of Open** has been released?  
Check out the latest episode where @Mais and I chat with Dr Julian Pakay from La Trobe University about ‘What can Open Education do that AI can’t?’

 ![Speaking of Open episode with image of a microphone and the podcast participants, Dr Julian Pakay and hosts Ash Barber and Mais Fatayer](https://connect.oeglobal.org/uploads/default/original/2X/5/54e1e07690be361ec734913995478083e99acd00.jpeg)

🎧 Listen to the ep: [What can Open Education do that AI can't? - Dr Julian Pakay by Speaking of Open](https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/speaking-of-open/episodes/What-can-Open-Education-do-that-AI-cant----Dr-Julian-Pakay-e36427b/a-ac2rrvc)

Join us for a wander through Julian’s co-authored chapter in _Open Education Down UndOER_, [‘Developing OER as Impactful Educational Interventions’](https://oercollective.caul.edu.au/openedaustralasia/chapter/developing-oer-as-impactful-educational-interventions/).

**What’s in this episode?**  
💠 The many ways OER can address teaching challenges and alleviate learning anxiety for students  
💠 How open education fosters deep learning and combats the shortcut style learning influenced by AI  
💠 Tackling the question of sustainable OER

And, most of all, this conversation will leave you revelling in the utter joy of teaching openly.

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### Author: ![cogdog](https://connect.oeglobal.org/user_avatar/connect.oeglobal.org/cogdog/32/2_2.png) [@cogdog](https://connect.oeglobal.org/u/cogdog)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://connect.oeglobal.org/t/new-speaking-of-open-podcast-episode-what-can-open-education-do-that-ai-cant/7874/2 "2025-07-30T19:02:49Z")

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I have this episode lined up to listen next time I have a drive to town, very excited to see the second episode of “Speaking of Open” especially on The Topic of Continued Interest, how can you resist:

> [@AshTheLibrarian](#):
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> And, most of all, this conversation will leave you revelling in the utter joy of teaching openly.

We salute the podcasting energy of @AshTheLibrarian and @Mais – For others reading this, please please help us expand our developing list of podcasts of interest to open educators, especially from different points on the globe.

What podcasts do you valuer listening? Who here is doing podcasting? We want to hear what you are saying, and share it in our Open Education Podcast Playlist (see [the subscription file](https://podcast.oeglobal.org/misc/open-ed-podcasts.xml) that can be imported into a podcast player).

> [@What Open Education Podcasts to You Know / Listen to / Recommend](https://connect.oeglobal.org/t/what-open-education-podcasts-to-you-know-listen-to-recommend/7534):
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> Like many people I get as lot of value in listening to podcasts. I’m fiddling with an interesting way to create a collection of ones related to Open Education, and have a few I know of or found. I’ve been making podcasts a looooong time and enjoy immensely producing the [OE Global Voices podcast](https://voices.oeglobal.org/), even if my in house audience is less than enthralled. [[50349089092\_5786a4fed9\_b]](https://www.flickr.com/photos/cogdog/50349089092/)[Someone is Sleeping Through the Podcast](https://flickr.com/photos/cogdog/50349089092) flickr photo by [cogdogblog](https://flickr.com/people/cogdog) shared into the public domain using [Creative Commons…](https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/)

We do have them set up as [a single collection of latest episodes](https://www.inoreader.com/stream/user/1005278332/tag/Podcasts/view/html?t=Open%20Education%20Podcasts&cs=m) from the 12 podcast shows we have tracked so far.
