I was thinking about, as I frequently do these days, using H5P with Moodle in an offline environment. The security issues are less, but accessibility is the same.
Hi Yasin, thanks for posting your thoughts. H5P is really a great tool and has been used extensively by NDLA over the last 10 years. NDLA was very invested in the H5P-project from its startup when it was replacing Flash in our content.
I guess it worries me when a small, rather ideologically driven company is taken over by a big company. My initial reflex is that they will close it down somehow. However there is nothing to gain from that as I see it.
The code developed so far for H5P is forever on open source (MiT), and continuing to have a strong and competent community contributing to the development of H5P is probably a better deal to D2L than creating a bunch of enemies by making it proprietary.
Also, just consider all the content that has been made with H5P! I talked to a representative for an organization from Greece in June that alone had over a million H5Ps! Properly incentivizing the value of this widespread use is huge for the development of H5P. Hopefully D2L recognizes that. Otherwise probably an alternative will emerge. Anyway, personally I feel like giving D2L a chance here and letâs not forget the frustrations of waiting for requests to be dealt with the last years. The H5P portfolio was obviously getting too big to handle for the Norwegian team.
In a way you could look at the takeover as a revitalisation of H5P that will benefit all users, but probably Brightspace users a little more than others - still benefit all. It could mean a more versatile and workshop-like hub where H5P could enter a more innovative phase again, like we saw the first years.
So, Iâm positive that this takeover represents new possibilities. And in the worst case scenario - H5P-content is out there in large numbers, and itâs everywhere. It feels hard to imagine that nobody would try to find a solution to reuse that content in a fork of H5P or in some other way. Thatâs the beauty of the cross platform capabilities, the modular thinking, the reusability and the editorial feature of H5P. In a way you could argue that H5P by its design belongs to the users.
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Thank you for joining OEG Connect, Knut, and for chiming right in to this discussion. Weâve seen truly for a long while here how involved NDLA is in not just H5P but open education in general.
I find myself very interested to know more about this organization you mentioned:
Is this something that has an online presence? I think sharing more of these various efforts in different countries/regions to support H5P use/creation/sharing is worth knowing about, especially as we never may get a central âhubâ of OER or until that last 2% gets completed, just knowing/sharing more examples of globally distributed efforts might help to build that incentive.
Where else in the world is H5P have a string pulse? This topic really just started because I spotted some impressive developments in the studio from LibreTexts since last time I peeked.
Likewise I am thinking of the catalogue based in India created and published by @sushumna https://www.h5pcatalogue.in/ and the templates she provides here https://justwrite.in/templates/
Even if it is from a single institution, the more we can know and share about shared/used H5P resources, it not only makes the case for the new owners of the H5P group but also sparks interest from people who have not tried or used H5Pâ I have long felt we can use more examples that are not just about berries (hey I love the H5P.org berries!)
we never may get a central âhubâ of OER or until that last 2% gets completed,
The H5P OER Hub has been running for 2+ years now if I am not mistaken. You can use it using the H5P plugin for moodle, the H5P plugin for Drupal and on H5P.com.
Yes, the H5P plugin for WordPress is still serving an old version of the H5P Hub client that does not support the H5P OER Hub. Yes, the pull request that would add that support to the WordPress plugin is available and has not been reviewed for over a year. And yes, a solution that would not rely on any H5P integration but could be used to browse and fill the Hub via a web page would be great (could be done, thereâs no secret that prevents implementing something like that).
The 2% missing are an arbitrary number that originally meant the WordPress integration and now mean some extra features for the Hub that H5P Group would like to implement before itâs âdoneâ. And the number, if taken seriously, would be too low, as it does not figure in moodleâs custom H5P integration (they claim theyâre lacking API information to implement this, but the WordPress implementation was also done without any additional information, itâs a question of commitment), it does not figure in the H5P integrations for Stud.IP, ILIAS, Typo3, it does not figure in Lumi or Edlib, etc.
Itâs a shame that progress is so slow, but itâs not that the H5P OER Hub could not be used at all and itâs not true that nobody could sit down and create ways to access it.
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Fair enough, I last looked at it through the drupal front end @yasin.dahi provides at Learnful.
Access to the hub is one thing, how much useful content is in there? I guess I need to venture in, but itâs not clear what the reason is to share there. Sure the 2% is an estimate of one access route, but it does not seem of importance. Whoâs promoting it? Who is championing it? Seems quiet to me, but again, Iâve been less involved with H5P advocacy.
@cogdog The H5P OER Hub is barren land for sure! Itâs a chicken and egg problem maybe. I donât find content, I donât share content. And it was great if someone provided more chickens or more eggs. Yes, H5P Group could have created more âaccess pointsâ. They could have promoted the Hub. They could have done a hundred and fourty six other things.
My message was supposed to be that this someone does not always have to be H5P Group. I donât like a caretaker attitude - this or that group or person must do something, I am so helpless, I cannot do anything and will nag someone else. I am absolutely not suggesting you have such an attitude! But I donât want others to get confirmation on theirs either.
In my opinion, one great thing about openness - in general and not limited to H5P - is that one can take the initiative. But thatâs actually one of the downsides of openness, too. Itâs so exhausting.
Hi Yasin,
I reached out via LinkedIn about the webinar. Would love to chat about possibilities since all three platforms are valuable for H5P OER creators. Cecile (ID, Open Learning at Conestoga) and I have been spreading the word and demonstrating how to fill in the metadata to ensure H5P are OER. It is frustrating to see U in the licensing, leaving people wondering what they can do with the activity.
Letâs chat!
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